> Carrol's is nonsensical:
>> Freedom is the ability to act without considering the future results of
>> the action.
> Again, Carrol is not saying that we already live in a free society.
> He is characterizing what the freedom in such society would be like --
> ignorance of causality. That is exactly upside down.
So (self-)conscious disregard of consequences *can* be mistaken for ignorance. I'll def take that into account. ;-)