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> On Aug 11, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Wojtek S wrote:
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> Carrol: "Three cheers for Greens who stick to their principles! "
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>> [WS:] Is that your recipe for progressive organizing? Do nothing and
>> hide behind principles?
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> *not* voting for the Obamist can be positive political act, and in any
> case is the precondition for any possible populist politics.
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> Oh Shane, Shane, Shane, how can you be so silly. Woj knows full well that
Carrol has been infinitely more intensely and regularly engaged in political
organizing than Woj has and Woj knows full well what Carrol's positions on
these things are, it is just that asking the snide, superior and rhetorical
question positions Woj (at least as Woj sees it) on the moral high ground,
above local list ideologues (as WOj sees them/us) who, given their
ideological commitments do nothing and hide behind principal (as Woj seems
to think he can claim)… even when he knows full well that this is not what
they do (AND doing so after WOJ initiated this part of the exchange by
throwing up his hands in the face of the WI recall outcomes and saying that
progressives never stand a chance today [seemingly independent of the
intensity of their active, pragmatic (not principaled?) organizing.