> I guess I should also have asked for this. Who started the thread. All the
> posts are subsequent to some original, but I can't find that original.
Original was from cb, 4 Dec. As has been pointed out previously, his messages behave oddly: replies from him show up as new messages and break the threads to which they are replies (at least for me and I believe for others). Not sure what caused the confusion in this case but possibly related.