[lbo-talk] More Rightwing proto-fascism

[Wojtek S]

[WS:] Speaking of precision, the Euro-American view of fascism as
something very uniquely horrifying in history seems rather imprecise.
In fact, Euro fascist atrocities have plenty of historical precedence
- the only difference is that in the victims of Euro fascist were
white, whereas the victims of other fascist violence were yellow,
brown, or black.  That is why, imho, Euro fascism appears so uniquely
horrifying to European and American whites.  Case in point: Nazi
atrocities in Europe pale in comparison to Japanese atrocities in
China, yet the former receive all the attention whereas the latter are
barely mentioned.  But then again, the victims of the former where
white, whereas the victims of the latter where Asian.

If we abandon the ethnocentric view of fascist victimization and stop
erroneously believing that fascism is something unique and
unprecedented and accept the fact it is something quite common in
history, there will be nothing imprecise in calling US right wingers
fascists.  They are fascist in their hearts, they just happen to
operate  within the constraints of a liberal state which limits what
they can do to their political enemies.  But those constraints are not
unbreachable (cf. McCarthy)

Wojtek

On 2/24/11, Marv Gandall <marvgand at gmail.com> wrote:
> Precision, dear boy, precision. You said "the GOP as a whole" was
> "full-blown fascist". :)
>
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> On 2011-02-24, at 4:00 PM, Wojtek S wrote:
>
>> I do not think the repugs will do it themselves - more likely, they will
>> use
>> goons (militias, klansmen, think tanks etc)  to do the dirty work for
>> them.
>> If the Wisconsin protests escalate, (and I wholeheartedly hope they will)
>> it is not the question of whether but when.
>>
>> Wojtek
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>> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Marv Gandall <marvgand at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2011-02-24, at 12:37 PM, Wojtek S wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why do you call it proto-fascism?  These guys, and GOP as whole I may
>>> add,
>>>> are full blown fascists, there is no reason to pull wool over it.  The
>>> only
>>>> difference between them and the Nazis, the Mussolinis, the Pinochets and
>>> the
>>>> Videlas  is that GOP does not have the power to do as they please with
>>> their
>>>> enemies, or perhaps not yet.
>>>
>>> I propose we reserve judgement on this question until the Republicans
>>> give
>>> the order to open fire on unarmed demonstrators, ban opposing political
>>> parties, purge left-wing academics from universities, and shut down all
>>> avenues of democratic expression, including lbo-talk.
>>>
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