[lbo-talk] Even a dead Pope can do miracles

[Wojtek S]

I dunno, but it is one thing to do miracles while you are alive, but a
different thing to do them after you kick the bucket.  I mean,  after you
are dead you are no longer a human you are sort of joining god (if you
believe that kind of stuff.)  So it stand to logic that it god not you who
performs the miracle, no? So they should beatify god instead as the proper
agent, albeit I do not think is necessary.

Wojtek

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Jim Farmelant <farmelantj at juno.com> wrote:


>
> On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 16:22:42 -0500 Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> writes:
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12191423
>
>
> To be beatified and later canonized in the Catholic
> Church, the first requirement is that you got to
> be dead, then usually one miracle is required
> for beatification, and two for canonization,
> although the (living) pope has the option of
> waiving the miracles requirement.
>
> The miracles requirement is one of
> miraculous healings, which means that
> the healing in question is supposed to be
> certified by a panel of physicians and
> medical scientists as having no natural
> explanation. Then once that has been gotten
> out of the way, the Church can then, if it
> so wishes, certify the healing as a miracle.
> In the olden days, when
> medicine was much less advanced, it
> was much easier to get  healings certified,
> since when there was less medical knowledge,
> there were more healings that could not
> be scientifically explained.  Now, its generally
> much harder to get a healing certified as
> being miraculous since medical science
> can explain much more now a days.
> In fact in some of the more recent beatifications,
> there have been accusations of chicanery
> on the part of the Church, to get certain
> healings certified as being miraculous, when
> there is evidence that the healings in question
> were explainable in terms of contemporary
> medical science.  Of course, the miracles
> requirement can always be waived, as
> was the case in a number of canonizations
> that were done under Pope John Paul II.
>
>
> Jim Farmelant
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