[lbo-talk] Mark Ames uncorks

Dissenting Wren dissentingwren at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 25 14:53:10 PST 2011


We're all really, really old, so we think all of Europe is something like Sweden c. 1974. And I long ago forgot my junior year abroad when everyone who talked to this murrican eventually got around to "Je ne suis pas raciste, le contraire, mais...."

The last time I lived in Europe was 1993-94 (assuming London counts as Europe), and I left to come back to Chicago because I was tired of the unbearable whiteness of England. (And yes, compared to Chicago, London is awfully fucking white). So I'm no europhile. Still, the way things have gone to shit since I got back: the immigrant bashing, the end of welfare as we know it, the forced birthers, the Christers, imperial war on a scale I thought I'd never see again, the political unutterability of the words "global warming," the death of any chance for a decent health care system, the knives out for social security. I wonder . . . could Europe be getting worse as fast as we are?

----- Original Message ---- From: Angelus Novus <fuerdenkommunismus at yahoo.com> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 2:29:02 PM Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Mark Ames uncorks

Wojtek wrote:


> That is why in the EU hateful political rhetoric is limited to the
> fringe right.

Oh sure. That's why Thilo Sarrazin's book went straight to the top of the bestseller lists in Germany, right? Because hateful rhetoric is just oh-so-marginal in utopian Europe.

Question for American liberal Pollyanna Europhiles: Do you guys actually, like, you know, read anything about Europe in the newspapers or magazines, or are you all just basing your utopian projections on your viewing La Dolce Vita on DVD or something?

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