[lbo-talk] Mark Ames uncorks

[Carrol Cox]

Living in a country or visiting it is no grounds at all for claiming
knowledge of the country as a whole. The personal experience of Dennis, Dou,
Carrol, et al is irrelevant to this. What is relevant is what we've read
about the U.S. -- including what Doug has written as a journalist -- as
_one_ journalist. And anyone  who knows English can read the same things we
do. In fact¸ many European leftists seem to know a good deal about left
writings in English, while very few U.S. leftists, it seems, have very much
acquainted with continental left theorists and historians. Zizek doesn't
count.

That used to be one of the defenses of the Vietnam War. It's critics hadn't
_been_ there. 

Carrol

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On Behalf Of Dennis Claxton
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 5:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Mark Ames uncorks

At 02:54 PM 1/25/2011, Angelus Novus wrote:


>and you guys want to change the subject to welfare state provisions 
>and health insurance.  I didn't make any claims concerning those, 
>and even conceded in an earlier post a long time ago

In the U.S., in case you've never been here and don't know the term, 
what you're saying here is a cop-out.

I do remember you made a vague concession "in an earlier post a long 
time ago."  That came after months and years of exchanges that did 
have to do with your broader claims about how pollyanna leftists in 
the u.s. just don't know what time it is.

So give us a break with the "who me?" bullshit.

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