[lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study?

[Carrol Cox]

"... intuitive resistance to Marxism is no less widespread, even among
socialists. It is emotionally and intellectually difficult to be a Marxist
since it goes against the grain of moral indignation which is, of course,
the main reason people become socialists."

	(G. M. Tamás: Telling the truth about class.

Outrage is not a bad place to start from; it's probably inevitable; but to
rest with it is politically paralyzing.

I agree with Miles except that a focus on poverty is too vague. So I want to
return to my very first response to this thread: the focus should be on
defending teachers. An injury to one is an injury to all. (And, as Ollmann
points out, we really add nothing to the description by adding a moral tag.)

Carrol

Carrol

-----Original Message-----
From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org]
On Behalf Of Miles Jackson
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 4:19 PM
To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study?

Doug Henwood wrote:
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Joshua Morey wrote:
> 
> 
>> I am suggesting, on the other hand, that material concerns inhibit
>> or facilitate students' ability to engage in the quantitative rigor
>> 
> 
> 
> That's absolutely true. The best predictors of school outcome are
> income & poverty. But isn't that something to be outraged about
> instead of making excuses for?
> 
> Doug

Well, it reframes the outrage.  The problem we need to focus on is 
poverty, not the school system.

Miles

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