[lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study?

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Fri Jan 28 20:39:49 PST 2011


Sorry about missing the irony!

Teachers are capable IF . . . Quite a few things. Remember Joanna's reference to the demoralization of the Oakland union members. AND the attack is a very general one, with strong foundations in the deliberate fiscal crisis of municipalities, states, and the federal government. That means it can't be just (or even mainly) a straight union vs school board battle.

I see the fight around the attack on schools/teachers as a POSSIBLE core of a rebounding left. That's a hope, not a prediction.

Carrol

-----Original Message----- From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] On Behalf Of Wojtek S Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:57 PM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] How Much Do College Students Learn, and Study?

[WS:] Can't you see the irony in what I posted?

As to defending teachers - I think they are quite capable of defending themselves - they have the highest union density in the nation. If their unions cannot pull it, then nothing "we" (whoever that is) do is going to make any difference.

Wojtek

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:


> Wojtek S
>
> [WS:] Was not the school system - or rather education - supposed to be
the
> solution of poverty? And as such, did not it fail rather miserably?
>
> Oh come on. Tat was the idiocy we fought to begin with in the '60s.
> Education as a "solution" is a silly liberal superstition, ad way of
> avoiding facts.
>
> Carrol
>
> But I agree with you - the problem is the social conditions that make
> students unavailable for learning. Focus on the school system is getting
> it
> all backwards.
>
> Wojtek
>
> >
> >
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