Wojtek
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
> That bill is a deliberate attack on the working conditions, pay, and job
> security of all public emplouyees. I say all because the attack on teachers
> is just the beginning. Keep morality out of it. See the review of the '70s
> book that Michael Yates cited a week or so ago. This is just a continuation
> of an attack that began decades ago. One landmark of the ongoing attack was
> a WSJ editorial in the mid-80s calling postal workers the "last subsidized
> middle class wage." The attack on public employees, particularly teachers,
> if successful, will provide the grounds for another round of reductions in
> all wages. _Wages, Price and Profit_, particularly the last chapter, has
> never been more timely. Down. Down. Down. Wake up, Wojtek.
>
> Carrol
>
> 6/1/2011 9:20 AM, Wojtek S wrote:
>>
>> Chuck: "In other words they engage in a pseudo-science sounding
>> justifications i.e. they are lying. "
>>
>> [WS:] Oh, c'mon, Chuck, stop behaving like a cornered dog biting
>> anything that moves. They sound like typical liberal do gooders -
>> wasting their money but basically not an enemy.
>>
>> wojtek
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Chuck Grimes<c123grimes at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> A link to another school reform bullshit? Whenever I read this
>>> kind of work, I look up the sponsoring agency. In the above case it was
>>> The
>>> Joyce Foundation. So I wiki-ed them.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Foundation
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.joycefdn.org/content.cfm/advanceillinoisperformancecounts?pagep=programs%2Deducation
>>>
>>> ``In mid-April the Illinois State Senate passed Senate Bill 7, commonly
>>> referred to as Performance Counts, putting in place a series of changes
>>> that
>>> align with the Joyce Foundation's education program priorities. Joyce
>>> grantee Advance Illinois played a key role in the passage of the bill,
>>> educating lawmakers and advancing the education reform agenda.
>>>
>>> The landmark legislation is the fruit of months of collaboration among
>>> lawmakers, teachers' unions, the Illinois State Board of Education, and
>>> education reform groups. Policy changes included in the Bill are:
>>>
>>> Performance included as a factor when making hiringlayoff, and dismissal
>>> decisions
>>>
>>> Ensuring tenure rewards effective teachers with strong performance
>>> records
>>>
>>> Changing the nature of union negotiations to place students' well-being
>>> at
>>> the center''
>>>
>>> Now the above is the domesticated pig DLC version of the great wild pig
>>> version I listened to this morning on Doug's show from Terry Moe:
>>>
>>> ``Terry M. Moe
>>> senior fellow
>>> member of the k-12 education task force
>>>
>>> Terry M. Moe is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, a member of
>>> the
>>> Institution's Koret Task Force on K-12 education, and the William Bennett
>>> Munro Professor of political science at Stanford University.
>>>
>>> He is an expert on educational policy, U.S. political institutions, and
>>> organization theory. His current research projects are concerned with
>>> school
>>> choice, public bureaucracy, and the presidency.''
>>>
>>> Doug's show was definitely worth listening too, because it gives you
>>> insight
>>> into how these pigs think. Their greatest vulnerability is found when
>>> they
>>> try
>>> to justify their ideas with empirical studies and data that show this or
>>> that. It often turns out that either the study didn't show what they
>>> said,
>>> or the study was gerry-rigged by some other think tank ideologue to show
>>> what it shows. This is even bad
>>> academic work, since the latter studies come from non-peer reviewed work
>>> that isn't published in a regular social science journals.
>>>
>>> In other words they engage in a pseudo-science sounding justifications
>>> i.e.
>>> they are lying.
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