[lbo-talk] Liberals

Wojtek S wsoko52 at gmail.com
Fri Jun 3 08:18:24 PDT 2011


My experience was markedly different, because my first and only English teachers were ESL teachers at various community college programs for FOBs. An I have to say that I very much appreciated what they were doing, especially with a rather difficult crowd. Perhaps I could not discuss philosophy with them, but I learned quite a bit about American English composition, which is very much different from what I learned in Europe, from these guys. What I particularly appreciated was a very non-pretentious, non-condescending, and matter-of-fact way they treated their students - which I saw as a contrast to Europe.

wojtek

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Chuck Grimes <c123grimes at att.net> wrote:
>
> My big problem with English teachers was they were extremely opinionated. If
> you didn't agree with their opinion of a writer, you flunked. That seemed
> monsterously unfair and stupid, even evil. They were such assholes about
> their subject, I just
> skipped reading anything they wrote.
>
> I am pretty much of the same opinion now. English writers seem mostly stupid
> opinionated assholes, so I don't bother reading them. English teachers as a
> class seem like assholes extraordinare. So fuck them as a class. I don't
> like their writing, I don't like their thinking, I don't like anything about
> them. They seem to me to be cold, indifferent, and stupid with an
> extraordinary asshole mentality. Frankly, I loath them in their entirity.
>
> After I took the last requirement in English, I never took another English
> class in anything  I don't like reading them even now. For example, Walter
> Ben Michaels. I don't care if he makes some good points. He is a jerk. I
> don't lke either Bloom exactly because they are ultimately jerks. Harold
> Bloom, who I acturally like on occasion, Allan Bloom whom I hate, nevermind,
> fuck them all and every one. It's a torment. Mansfield's translation are,
> judging Machiavelli are beautiful. Nevermind. Fuck Mansfield. I cant explain
> why I loathe these motherfuckers but I do. American literture only exists as
> the writing of ordinary people. Which I love to read. And without any trope
> of thir use of language---just stupid grammarian elite assholes. Johnson and
> Boswell seem to carry it all into the tolite.
>
> I don't even bother to write coherent critiques. An English critique is
> bullshit . EOF. Sure I lose some nuance, butt what the fuck do I care.
>
> CG
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