[lbo-talk] The epidemic of mental illness

shag carpet bomb shag at cleandraws.com
Thu Jun 16 09:42:05 PDT 2011


out of curiosity, did you have side effects?


> In March 2010, after my family was killed in a car accident, I
> (obviously) had severe depressive and anxiety symptoms...completely
> unbearable... I tried a behavioral psychologist, a Lacanian therapist
> (in Israel), I tried some "natural supplements" (not ridiculous
> homeopathy) that a psychologist suggested had clinical evidence of
> effectivity on symptoms... I still felt the extremely unbearable
> shitty self. I did NOT want any SSRI because I have always been wary,
> hearing of their side effects and ineffectively and difficulty of
> coming off of them. But therapy alone wasn't effective and the actual
> or placebo effect of the supplements was unobservably subtle to say
> the least. The only thing that had any effect was Xanax, but that
> lasts 4 hours and then back to the unbearable. So finally I talked to
> my psychiatrist and took a prescription for Celexa. For two weeks I
> wasn't feeling any better (well, except when I would take Xanax), but
> then within 3-4 days especially the anxiety!
> symptoms started to suddenly disappear, and then a few weeks after
> that I just needed Xanax here and there when thinking about my wife
> and kids gets a bit too unbearably emotional. Seems weird that the
> placebo effect of the supplements would be sooo significantly less
> than the Celexa if it were merely placebo. I would venture to guess
> from that experience that the SSRI was significantly (non-placebo)
> effective in my case on my symptoms...doesn't mean it has the same
> result with everyone, and doesn't mean that serotonin imbalance was
> the cause of my symptoms (that cause would be the loss of my
> family)...but I don't really care...it was/is effective in
> contributing to making my life bearable for the moment...
>
> Bryan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 16, 2011, at 7:14, lbo83235 <lbo83235 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 16, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Carrol Cox wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/15/2011 10:38 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote:
>>>> Fascinating article about mental illness and psychoactive drugs.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/jun/23/epidemic-mental-illness-why/?page=1
>>>
>>> Jan read parts of the article to me. I would agree with it. I don't
>>> know much about anti-psychotics (and I didn't ask Jan whether the
>>> article included lithium, but I've become convinced that SSRIs at
>>> least are pure poison.
>>>
>>> It may be a case of more or less unregulated capitalist firms
>>> simply not recognizing any limits
>>
>> It's pure market creation. Take a population of disoriented,
>> stressed, over-worked individuals (raw material), and pass them
>> through an increasingly refined industrial process of
>> ever-proliferating diagnoses. Voila - turns out there are "diseases"
>> and "syndromes" everywhere - because we're constantly refining our
>> ability to "extract" them. Meanwhile, every new chemical compound
>> wants to find a market - something to treat. It's a near-perfect
>> analog of the old "pass a law, create a business" line.
>>
>> Last time I was in the US, the parade of happy-smiley drug ads on TV
>> with their horror-show, fast-talk disclaimers at the end seemed like
>> something out of Bladerunner. Completely fucking surreal.
>>
>>
>
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