[lbo-talk] An Orgy of Speculation?

c b cb31450 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 7 14:32:05 PST 2011


[WS:] But that is exactly what Brenner argues. Contrary to what Brad claims, Brenner shows a secular decline in mfg profit rates (i.e. surplus value/capital invested) in the time period preceding financialization (1950s to 1970s) - and argues that financialization that started in the late 1970s and 1980s was the capital's solution to this systemic problem of falling rates. That timing supports the cause-effect relationship as claimed by Brenner. His writing may be a bit dense and tedious, but unlike conventional economists who seemingly love circular arguments, he makes a great effort to establish a cause-effect relationship. From that pov, Michael is right that high profit rates achieved through financialization could not be achieved in mfg.

Wojtek

^^^^^^^^ CB; Wouldn't capitalism tend to financialize whether profits are falling or rising , if they can get away with it, since financialization is the most efficient way to concentrate wealth ? Capitalists don't only try to raise their profit rates when those rates are falling. Capitalists trying to raise profit rates is a secular not cyclical "trend". Capitalists are always trying to raise profit rates. Capitalist try to raise profit rates : dog bites man.



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