[lbo-talk] An Orgy of Speculation?

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Tue Mar 8 10:58:17 PST 2011


I would tend to agree that Charles has an unacceptable version of Marx. But he isn't half as silly as the writers you recommend.

Carrol

-----Original Message----- From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] On Behalf Of Dissenting Wren Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 12:49 PM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] An Orgy of Speculation?

Read John Roemer or David Schweickart and stop being silly.

----- Original Message ---- From: c b <cb31450 at gmail.com> To: lbo-talk <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Sent: Tue, March 8, 2011 11:13:02 AM Subject: [lbo-talk] An Orgy of Speculation?

Dissenting Wren

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The standard Marxist theory of the falling rate of profit rests on the notion that there is an upper bound to the rate of exploitation. That bound is both political and physical, political because the capitalist mode of production unintentionally increases the potential political power of workers, and physical because exploitation of the workforce must, in the long run, be conducted at a level that permits the reproduction of the working class. (OK, that last is quasi-physical since, as Marx notes, the level of consumption required for reproduction varies from place to place, but capitalism raises this level of consumption needed for reproduction, thereby making the quasi-physical limit more stringent, not less). In mainstream economics, these kind of limits get taken up in discussions of the efficiency wage.

The problem with Marx's argument is the assumption that investment in constant capital only reproduces value, which is doubly nonsense, partly due to the incoherence of the notion of value... ^^^^^^^ CB: If the notion of value is incoherent, how are you defining "exploitation" and "rate of exploitation in your previous paragraph ?

^^^^^ [NB - I won't respond to any of the objections this may elicit]

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