[lbo-talk] An Orgy of Speculation?

[Carrol Cox]

Remember that the first socialist movements were inspired by Ricardo's
political economy. And subsequent movements have in fact continued to be
inspired not by Marx but by "Marx-seen-as-Ricardo." This is not a criticism
of those movements: they achieved what could be achieved, the abstract
equality of citizenship. But they were not and could not have been struggles
for freedom. Opposition to exploitation can never add up to more than
various reforms of a given capitalist society, leaving humanity still in the
chains of the future. Fredy Perlman is pretty good on this. Postone is more
technical but still powerful if you read him. It is value as a social
relation which chains humanity and threatens its very existence.

Carrol

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The tyranny of the future created under capitalism. All social systems to
the present have been exploitative. One fights against exploitation in
endlessly fussy ways, which (as Marx pointed out in Wages, Price, and
Profit) are essential (less the working class degenerate into wretches
incapable of any higher struggle. But that higher struggle is the struggle
for Freedom. Read Tamás.

Carrol

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On Mar 14, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:


> The problem is that exploitation is _not_ the major objection to
capitalism.

It's not? What is?
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