Yann
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> On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:57 AM, lbo83235 wrote:
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>> On Mar 21, 2011, at 1:23 PM, ymorvan at scss.tcd.ie wrote:
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>>> But if that leads you to support a US/France/UK lead intervention,
>>> you
>>> are stuck thinking within the parameters they set, instead of
>>> thinking
>>> politically. Leaving aside the fact that France and the UK have been
>>> arming Khadafi, there are a number of things that could have been
>>> done
>>> to support the rebellion. (People have suggested releasing the
>>> regime's
>>> cash held abroad to them, giving them weapons, opening borders to
>>> facilitate volunteers helping, etc.)
>>
>> No offense, but this is a tragicomically absurd pattern of thinking:
>> armchair diplomacy at it's most reclined. You and whose army (of
>> volunteers)? How on earth do you think you could realistically do,
>> or even encourage the doing of, any such thing to "support the
>> rebellion"? Hypothetically, if you were to pursue that line of
>> action (as distinct from that line of thinking), what would have
>> been your first move? Whom would you have called? And said what?
>
> If you look at a map, you will see that right next to Libya is a big
> country called Egypt.
> Egypt is now in a revolutionary process like that in Libya.
> Egypt also has a big, very well-equipped conscript army that is
> totally unimpaired by the revolutionary process.
> Whose commanders' present preoccupation is in controlling,
> undermining, and ending the revolutionary process.
> Instead of securing the country's frontier, protecting the population
> of eastern Libya, or supporting democratic revolution.
> Because, it is obvious, they have been so ordered by their overlords
> in Washington.
>
> Revolutionaries, if "realistic" in the slightest degree, would have
> been raising an army of Egyptian volunteers (former conscripts, thus
> well-trained) to fight Khadafi, and demanding that it be fully
> supported by Egyptian military resources.
>
> Where is the Egyptian Danton, the Egyptian Brissot, to call for his
> revolution to aid its fellow revolutionaries across that border, the
> way the French Revolution came to the aid of the revolution in
> Austrian-ruled Wallonia in 1792?
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>>
>> I'm all for identifying and strategizing alternative and more
>> genuinely emancipatory courses of action, and then organizing the
>> resources to make them real, but that's never a hypothetical
>> exercise. In this case, how is what you're saying even remotely
>> anything other than a fantasy?
>>
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