[lbo-talk] vaca reading

Chuck Grimes c123grimes at att.net
Mon May 9 12:49:15 PDT 2011


I don't see slavery and colonialism as inherent in the logic of then new wage-labor/capital relation. cb

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I don't know about that.

There is a kind of capitalist logic in slavery and colonialism if you consider how much labor power was required to extract wealth from the land, particularly in planation crops like cotten, sugar cane, coffee, or mining for precious metals and gem stones. These are so labor intensive that it's difficult to imagine how to extract a profit from them in a wage system. The old capitalist bastards must have realized this. They tried the peasant system with indentured labor before they decided slavery was the way to go...or at least I think so considering the Hacienda system in New Spain...I mean California.

And, there were the Arabs and their big cash crops in cotton, cooking oil, barley, wheat, etc to wonder about. How did the Ottomans configure their economies of scale? I don't know. A guess, they used a feudal landless peasant system to supply product to a merchant class, who were under central control of provincial governers backed by armies, or something like that...

There is a dialectic between peasant, slave, and economy that I don't really know much about. It would be interesting history to study in anticipation of our collective future.

CG



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