[lbo-talk] Caroline Fourest: In Praise of Consent

Eubulides paraconsistent at comcast.net
Mon May 23 20:18:11 PDT 2011


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There's an assumption here that we should take the word of accusing women for granted. That's probably fair enough by and large, but then by granting that we incentivize women to make false charges when it suits them. Sorry, but that's just human nature (that dreaded anti-Marxist notion).

^^^^^ CB: Species being is one of Marx's concepts. Marx's materialism is based in concepts of human nature. Human nature is not an anti-Marxist notion. Marx does demolish the idea that bourgeois and capitalist ideology is human nature.

Maybe ur thinking of post-modernists and their idea of anti-essentialism.

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Well that’s as silly as saying concepts of the photon are anti-Marxist. It's pretty clear from the historical record of disputation regarding the concept of human nature that so-called human nature is an interminably contestable concept bordering on vacuousness. What behaviors have human beings displayed in the last 30,000 years that aren't human nature?

The claim that burgeois/capitalist ideology is not human nature is as silly as saying Buddhism is not human nature or the political/theological formations of the so-called middle ages aren't human nature.

Darwin was an anti and post-essentialist; does that make him post-modern?

When will the fantasy of *the* concept of nature go the way of the limbic system and phlogiston?



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