[lbo-talk] Occupy Oakland's imminent implosion and the wider effects

[Carrol Cox]

Joanna: It's a mixed bag. From all reports, the marches during the general
strike day were peaceful and joyous. But the black block actions have been
completely counterproductive.

No doubt. But to repeat something I've written many times on this list:

There will always be a Black Bloc or equivalent.
There will always be provocaterus
There will always be Democrats in the leadership (though they won't always
know it themselves)
Name it (anything counter-productive) and you will have named what will
ALWAYS be 'there'

Such elements, tendencies, etc are simply part of the world in which
leftists have to  operate the best they can. A couple weeks ago I wondered
if anyone could supply a one-sentence blast at Anti-Fed sentiments. (Or
something like that.) Then I decided fuck it. We just have to accept such
nonsense as part of the weather and ignore it.

A world in which left actions could be pure is a world that woudn't need a
left.

Carrol