On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 5:17 PM, SA <s11131978 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/5/2011 4:30 PM, shag carpet bomb wrote:
>
> as for stopping it, you could set up a system where you prove your
>> street cred or party ID or charge a price for admission. Unless you've
>> proven you're one of us and agreed to all we're about, then you can't
>> be here. If they won't go away, call the cops. Or, you can hire your
>> own cops and have the cops take them down. You can be your own cops
>> and do same. There are problems with doing those things which will be
>> more troubling to a budding movement (or an organization for that
>> matter) than just putting up with the nutters, the conspiracy
>> theorists, the folks smashing windows and using their interference in
>> ways that can be productive.
>>
>
> You could have a collective agreement in advance on what tactic to use
> during an action when Black Bloc types pull these kinds of stunts. In the
> videos I've seen, there's inevitably a group of demonstrators trying to
> give the BB a hard time or even trying to physically stop them, but it all
> looks so haphazard and demoralized and always fails. It would be better if,
> for example, everyone knew that they were supposed to, say, stop, point,
> and -- without trying to stop the BB -- chant some pre-approved line in
> unison, like saboteurs. The BB does these things solely to create photo
> opps -- if the videos posted to the web the next day show them being
> heckled down by a big group of normal demonstrators who outnumbered them,
> it would ruin the effect they're trying to create.
>
> SA
>
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