[lbo-talk] more communization!

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Tue Nov 8 20:00:59 PST 2011


Shag here provides the context in which I can explain why, on the one had, I call Weatherman political trash, refusing to dignify them with the label "ultra-left," and on the other hand, attack those who on the basis of dislike of violence dismiss the Black Bloc. It was impossible to deal with the Weatherman. My 11pm to 2am 'debate' with Jeff Jones began with his attack on the local SDS for supporting the strike of the ISU workers: it was, he said, opportunism. The core of the Weatherman existence was hot militant tactics rally, but rather a flat denial that an American Left or an American Working-Class Movement could exist, a labeling anyone who even vaguely hoped for such a development "opportunist." I've heard no one claim that the Oakland Black Bloc denies the possibility of a working-class movement in the U.S., nor have they attacked the legitimacy of attempts to build such a movement. [1] Their tactics and analysis may or may not be correct in any given situation, but those who attack them for their very existence (as Lou Proyect has tended to do) are themselves the Weatherman of the current left: it is they, not the Black Bloc who deny the right to exist of any faction that does not fit their ideal picture of a U.S. Left.

I have posted quite a few times on this list that when the next left upsurge came it would NOT resemble either the 1930s or the 1960s, but that it would _probably_ be closer to the latter. I also stated time after time that it was impossible to predict how or when the next left upsurge would occur. That is to sday, attempts to provide a general theory of what a left should be always fail. Such attempts are merely futile, at best, reactionary at worse, in attempting to write recipes for the tactics and organization of the future left. It is only when such a left actually emerges and its shape becomes roughly visible that theory becomes a crucial need: to theorize, to identify the nature of that emergent left and to give back to that left a image of itself. Theory follows action and makes action intelligible. We still don't know quite enough about what is happening (not only in Oakland but all over the U.S., evenall over the world) for our attempts at theorizing it to be very accurate, but it is not too soon to begin that effort. And the first premise is to take Wisconsin and the Occupations as they are: the time for criticism is not yet. Only those who take the present movement whole [2], abstaining from kvetching, will be in a position to theorize it and eventually to form the principles by which that movement can engage either in self-criticisms or in reational polemics between various tendencies in it. The Occupy Movment¸for now, _is_ the core of an emerging left. Accepting its centrality is the point of defparture for any attempts to contribute to further growth of a New American Left.

Carrol

[1] My early posts, like those of others, were written before we had much actual information on what had happened in Oakland, and like others I first responded merely to an abstract assumption that the Black Bloc was operating on its own. This seems not to be the case. In that context, however, I did make one general observation that may or may not be immediately relevant to Oakland but is, abstractly, of some importance. I wrote:

***** Angelus's last paragraph is central: that unfairness also is an expression of _contmpt_ for those who should be regarded as comrades; it is the other side of the con from "experts" who want the masses to follow their advice without bickering about it. Both show contempt for workers, and both lead to disunity. ******

Here is the paragraph from AN's post:

***** Also, it's just terribly vanguardist. Michael, after the revolution, a tribunal is going to force you to read some Hal Draper and August Nimitz. Black bloc dipshits are acting outside of democratic legitimacy. It's not fair to the people who don't want their heads staved in by police nightsticks.***

The relevant sentence here: "Black bloc dipshits are acting outside of democratic legitimacy." Shag writes below: "The author also discusses how the major factions (commies and anarchists) within OO are, currently, being attacked by reformists who were responsible for breaking the GA-agreed on principles of the GS: respect for a diversity of tactics and not talking to the media."

In this case at least, then, it appears that the Black Bloc has NOT acted outside of democratic legitimacy. But that general principle does hold, and my remark, quoted above, on the contempt for workers shown by such a violation of democratic legitimacy can be a major obstacle to the emergence of a coherent left in the United States, which now for the first time since the 1960s appears a serious possibility.

[2] Mike Beggs attempts to isolate tactics from the context in which the tactics are used. In this he emulates the Weatherman: both value tactics in abstraction: he to condemn, Wetherman to praise. Same wrong principle. Tactics (any conceivable tactic) can only be judged within a specific context.

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From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] On Behalf Of shag carpet bomb Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 10:45 AM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: [lbo-talk] more communization!

Interesting discussion of the use of tactical violence to further strategic ends. In this case, the strategy is communization - which have been fleshed out in a couple of other articles I've sent, as well as some of my discussions of the situationists. The author also discusses how the major factions (commies and anarchists) within OO are, currently, being attacked by reformists who were responsible for breaking the GA-agreed on principles of the GS: respect for a diversity of tactics and not talking to the media.

Like the author, I'm hard pressed to understand how you can have a movement "with teeth" if you don't make it clear to the people joining it that they are probably going to have to be willing to give it "teeth." In this case, there was a tactical decision made in the interest of two strategic ends: to highlight the fact that any just social future will require the destruction of the old and birth of the new out of that destruction.

thus: the destruction of property was symbolic but retaliatory. It wasn't just random, let's attack any store whatsoever, it was aimed at a Whole Foods b/c they were threatening employees, and at three banks for obvious reasons. I think the message is pretty clear. This movement is going to be about getting rid of capitalism and it is going to be about creating an alternative to it. I guess you could issue a statement in a press release instead, no?

The building occupation is discussed in more detail and, as far as I know, no one here has objected to it, although it is the building occupation and the fight afterward that was where most of the window breakage, etc. occurred. The small business owners, etc. I believe that, in the debates on line, there has been some complaining about that. But the context is very different considering. People who agreed with the use of tactical violence are mad at people who also agreed with the use of tactical violence. the former faction just didn't like 1. the dance party; 2. the tagging; and 3. the anger fueled mayhem after the cops showed up at 11:30ish

WRT to the "violence" and destruction connected with the building occupation, it is true: if the cops had stayed away, there would have been a big dance party while people set up a library, meeting room, and place to house sick people.

Zero violence would have occurred.

But it did, because cops showed up and decided to shoot people with less than lethal weapons, even though they were unarmed, and cops are suited up in gear that protected them from whatever bottles were hurled. They didn't shoot people in self defense. They didn't shoot people to restore order. Order was just fine until they got there. Unused, foreclosed property was being put to beneficial social uses.

They showed up to protect the interests of property.

<quote> If the Oakland Commune does not continue to accelerate the process of communization, it will fall back into either pure symbolism, or assume the counterrevolutionary form of reformism (two processes already in progress). The building was the next logical step, and the moment taken seemed to be the likeliest and also the safest for large numbers of people not involved, as the cops had not been seen in numbers at any point, until they appeared and massed up to put down the already accomplished building occupation. Had the same events occurred during the day, the disruption to the General Strike would have been much greater. </quote>

more at: http://libcom.org/library/oakland-general-strike-days-days-after --

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