[lbo-talk] internal threats

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Wed Nov 9 15:27:26 PST 2011


ravi was semi quoting Pascal who wrote in his Pensees:

Le coeur a de raisons que la raison ne connait pas.

....or something very close to that. Literally translated it says:

The heart has reasons that reason does not know.

So it's not just "feelings" it is, in particular, a feeling that grows out of love. So, it posits love above reason.

So the discussion, as Pascal intended is about positing something higher than Reason (let's remember he was a mathematician). He is precisely arguing against the superiority of reason, so if "irrational" means to denigrate the power or truth of love, then I think Pascal would disagree.

Joanna

----- Original Message ----- We may know what the reasons of Reason are, but we shall never know what the reasons of feelings are, and with so much I agree. But it's not inconsistent to think that feelings may have no reasons. Hence, feelings == the irrational.

albert

On 11/9/2011 11:41 AM, // ravi wrote:
> On Nov 9, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Doug Henwood wrote:
>> On Nov 9, 2011, at 12:55 PM, SA wrote:
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>>> "Justify one's actions" = "come up with a reason for them." Yes, people should have a reason for their actions. Otherwise they're irrational.
>> I get some shit when I say it's about feelings, but the more I hear, the more I think it is.
>>
> I agree with SA, and not to give you shit, but feelings =/= irrational. Nor is rational == correct. Feelings have their reasons, that Reason does not know!
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> —ravi
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