On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:08 PM, // ravi wrote:
> On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:01 PM, Shane Mage wrote:
>> On Nov 10, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Dennis Claxton wrote:
>>
>>> There's also the fact that the kids were part of a foundation
>>> Sandusky ran for "troubled young boys."
>>
>> Including, perhaps, a few whose troubles involved lack of sexual
>> companionship?
>>
>
> Shane,
>
> are you pretty much arguing that the 11-12 year olds had consensual
> sex with this coach guy? And that 11-12 year olds, contra Joanna,
> can in fact consent to sex with an adult? If you are, I would like
> to hear more on that from you.
> I'm arguing nothing about l'affaire Sandusky, since I know no more
> of the facts than everybody else, who have only media to inform
> them. The topic is, was "consensual sex" a possibility or an
> impossibility? My questions are basically: Are children capable of
> voluntary behavior? And, assuming a positive answer to that
> question: What is it about sex that makes it an exception? Since I
> was convinced by Freud, as well as by experience, that humans are
> sexual beings from the earliest infancy I find it hard to imagine an
> argument for the proposition that sexual companionship is so
> different from all other human urges that children cannot desire it
> and voluntarily try to gratify their desire. But if anybody wishes
> to offer such an argument I would be more than happy to enter into
> dialogue on the topic.
Shane Mage
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