And that was over simple curfew violation -- not politics.
I had a minor debate with a member of the local anti-war group back in 2002 over the meaning of "non-violent": he thought it meant "peaceful." I didn't push it then because it didn't matter. Probably I should have.
Carrol
Carrol
-----Original Message----- From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] On Behalf Of Eric Beck Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 7:24 PM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] dox and nonviolence
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 6:41 AM, shag carpet bomb <shag at cleandraws.com> wrote:
> I notice that the Chancellor at UC Berkeley and the police captain
> both invoke popular conceptions of Ghandian principles to claim that
> resisting arrest or refusing to follow the orders of police is "not
> non-violence". The double negative was key. People have read them as
> saying "violent" and at one point the captain did slip up. But the
> chancellor was careful to say "not non-violent".
You were the first to point this out to me. To me, it seems important to notice it, cuz it seems like a new cop strategy. Here's a blog post that elaborates on your point (it's longish, but I'm reproducing the whole thing, cuz it's good and it's easier for to read here than on the black background of the original):
"UCB Chancellor Robert Birgeneaus statement rationalizing police beatings of unarmed and unthreatening protesters relies on a contentious contrast between those who chose to be arrested peacefully and are to be honor[ed] because they were acting in the tradition of peaceful civil disobedience, and others who chose to obstruct the police by linking arms and forming a human chain to prevent the police from gaining access to the tents of their would-be encampment. The latter tactic, he writes, is not non-violent civil disobedience. Overnight the discussion of Birgeneaus letter has focused on its willingness to defend beating in the name of non-violence and its fetishization of non-violence as such. In agreement with those points, I'm also interested in Birgeneau's falsification of the history he references and, positively, in the tensions it suggests when we dont accept such a cheap edition of it.
"Birgeneaus double negative locution, not non-violent, acknowledges that the Berkeley protesters were, well, lacking in violence, if also lacking in non-violence. It frames an ambiguous realm between violence and non-violence, further partitioning a field already divided by the term non-violent in the first place. A program, or tradition, of non-violence is not automatically a program of peace. Thats why Birgeneau has to add peaceful and peacefully to his description; it is not redundant. Traditionally, non-violence is the realm of the march and the sit-in, which challenge opponents to commit or resist aggression on their own side. In the history of U.S. civil rights struggle by African-Americans, arguments like Birgeneaus have often functioned to justify racist force by a white community on the grounds that the actions of African-Americans were provocative, if not violent. That is, the violence or not of protesters actions was part of the debate; acts were perceived as violent enough to warrant indubitably violent repression because of their contextual, subjectively perceived aggression. Protesters invited, or provoked, police violence through ambiguous non-violence in order to question the cultural norms beneath white perceptions of what felt violent (enough) to them. We miss part of the significance if we view the segregationist charges of provocation as completely disingenuous. The debate, and the genuine confusion, about violence and non-violence recurs in Birgeneaus distinction between non-violence and that which is not non-violent.
"Birgeneau has seen Eyes on the Prize and knows he cannot come out against non-violent civil disobedience. Yet he also seems to demur from UC Police Captain Margo Bennett's less subtle statement: "The individuals who linked arms and actively resisted, that in itself is an act of violence." Pragmatically, hes talking about the legal difference between being arrested and also resisting arrest. Traditional civil rights protesters, Birgeneau suggests, do not resist arrest. But this claim doesnt bear scrutiny. It must be said that guides to civil disobedience often advise not resisting arrest on practical grounds: its an additional and gratuitous charge if youre being arrested anyway, and conviction on resisting arrest disallows a civil rights complaint against police. Its also difficult to say how often traditional civil rights protesters resisted because resisting arrest was so often charged to promote conviction in the absence of other persuasive offenses. What constitutes physical resistance is itself in the realm of perceptual ambiguity, to the interest of which this kind of protest calls attention. Even so, the docket records of civil rights struggle show too much resistance for it to be plausible to assert that it was no part of the tradition Birgeneau wants to honor. Chicago v. Gregory (1966), Pennsylvania v. 100 Defs. (1963), New York City v. 7 Defs. (1963), New York v. 17 Demonstrators (1966), and New York v. Gray, Vaughan (1966), to name a few, look like good places to explore further resistance to arrest within the civil disobedience "tradition." In New York v. 17 Demonstrators, for example, 50 demonstrators, mostly mothers on welfare, blocked doors of Dept of Welfare, seeking increased clothes allowances for school children, and were arrested for disorderly conduct, trespass, resisting arrest.
"Closer to home, Mario Savio was among a group of protesters who repeatedly picketed and sat in at the Sheraton Palace Hotel in San Francisco to protest its racially discriminatory hiring policies in 1964. They did so in violation of a court injunction that limited the time they could protest, and on March 7, 1964, were arrested lying down with arms linked . . . blocking the exits of the hotel (from Savios applications to the Mississippi Summer Project, King Center Library, Atlanta; quoted in Jo Freeman, How the 1963-64 Bay Area Civil Rights Demonstrations Paved the Way to Campus Protest, Organization of American Historians, San Francisco, April 19, 1997; my italics). Freeman, who participated in the Sheraton Palace protests, remembers how their efforts were almost universally reviled.
"In thinking about the reception of African-American civil rights protest and examples like Mario Savios together, we re-encounter in its most powerful form Birgeneaus hoped-for distinction between heroic non-violent activists and undesirable, not non-violent students. It's the convenience of this that is at stake in the question of the incidence of resisting arrest in classic African-American civil rights protest. In a recent book on the photography of the civil rights era, Martin Berger and David Garrow ponder the anonymous photograph above, showing a woman in the Birmingham protest fiercely contesting her arrest. Berger and Garrow point out that the mainstream history of the era tends not to reproduce such photographs, and we can see the legacy of that pattern in the cliché version of the tradition mobilized by Birgeneau. White publications in the North shunned such complicating photographs, they note, and left it to segregationist journals to publish them. The inactive-active opposition, they argue, structured the emotional and intellectual response of whites to photographs of dogs and fire hoses ( Seeing Through Race: A Reinterpretation of Civil Rights Photography [Berkeley and Los Angeles: University of California Press, 2011, p. 119]) and so regulated both their empathy and their understanding of protest. It is this very opposition that Birgeneau complacently repeats, at once narrowing the possibilities for activism and obscuring the complexity of the history he thinks he honors."
http://workwithoutdread.blogspot.com/2011/11/not-non-violent-civil-disobedie nce.html
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