[lbo-talk] Corey Robin on AJE on Bluestocking panel

c b cb31450 at gmail.com
Tue Nov 15 11:34:41 PST 2011


Alan Rudy

In this case, however, I think Doug's point about sympathetic readings trumps yours about a silly distinction. Robin's point, it seems to me is an empirical one more than a theoretical one. Sometimes the cops thump on you, which feels like the government, and sometimes your boss does, which feels like the market, and sometimes your partner does, which feels like the domestic, etc., and so on down the line. This means that when the folks he is writing about deemphasize repression in sphere's beyond "the government" by focusing too much on the cops/city hall the distinction has political efficacy - even if the writer, as a political intellectual, isn't silly enough to personally reify the distinction.

Now, listening to Doug's interview with Robin and starting (it is important, here, to emphasize that I've only started it) his book, I've had the beginnings of an inkling of exactly the opposite reaction to his work.

There are moments in Robin's work/words where I hear echoes of anarchists' (in this case Bookchin's) reification of domination - a form which transcends and supersedes qualitative changes in the relations of its content. I love the analysis of the iterative/evolving/learned-from-left-opponents characteristics of the Reactionary Mind but have been a little concerned that these learned and evolving iterations seem to always return to the same form of relationship - one based on a feudal model of domination (each capitalist's business is a fiefdom, each male workers' home is a fiefdom, each white southern community is a fiefdom, each administrative bureaucracy is a fiefdom, etc.)

I am still working this out but I am - at the moment and at the meta-analytic level - more drawn to Eagleton's insistence on differentiating conservatisms, as he does here in the context of a discussion of whether Eliot was a Fascist:

In fact, Eliot was not a Fascist but a reactionary, a distinction lost on those of his critics who, in the words of Edmund Burke, know nothing of politics but the passions they incite. Ideologically speaking, Fascism is as double-visaged as the Modernism with which it was sometimes involved, casting a backward glance to the primitive and primordial while steaming dynamically ahead into the gleaming technological future. Like Modernism, it is both archaic and avant-garde, sifting pre-modern mythologies for precious seeds of the post-modern future. Politically speaking, however, Fascism, like all nationalism, is a thoroughly modern invention. Its aim is to crush beneath its boot the traditions of high civility that Eliot revered, placing an outsized granite model of a spade and sten gun in the spaces where Virgil and Milton once stood.

Fascism is statist rather than royalist, revolutionary rather than traditionalist, petty-bourgeois rather than patrician, pagan rather than Christian (though Iberian Fascism proved an exception). In its brutal cult of power and contempt for pedigree and civility, it has little in common with Eliot’s benignly landowning, regionalist, Morris-dancing, church-centred social ideal. Even so, there are affinities as well as contrasts between Fascism and conservative reaction. If the former touts a demonic version of blood and soil, the latter promotes an angelic one. Both are elitist, authoritarian creeds that sacrifice freedom to organic order; both are hostile to liberal democracy and unbridled market-place economics; both invoke myth and symbol, elevating intuition over analytical reason.

This is from: Terry Eagleton 2000. Nudge-Winking. London Review of Books 24(18): xx-xx. Sept. 19. http://www.lrb.co.uk/article.php?get=eagl01_2418

^^^^^^^^^ CB: I believe Eagleton considers his theory Marxist. A Marxist definition of fascism or Fascism would have class analysis more centrally than the above. What do fascists do with respect to the class struggle ? Or reactionaries , for that matter ? By and large aren't fascists and reactionaries close in their attitude to class struggle ?



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