>Another lurking issue are the mountains that surround the northern
>LA complex. Getting over those is a real pain in the ass. I got so
>tired of that I stopped going down to LA for holidays. I have no
>idea what it's like these days.
The mountains are still there. :)
Here's some cool details:
http://www.clui.org/newsletter/winter-2011/through-grapevine-exhibit