[lbo-talk] Fwd: Has the Left given up on Economics ? « The Disorder Of Things

c b cb31450 at gmail.com
Tue Oct 4 12:28:35 PDT 2011


shag carpet

did you have two ventis for your afternoon cuppa or what? sheesh!

^^^^ CB; I'm cool, calm and collected, honey. mmmmmmmmmmm purrrrrr

^^^^

i think his use of the term "post-capitalist" signals that he's uninterested in the kind of marxist analysis you're talking about charles. he's not interested in any thinkers who'd say they are interested in socialism. that's my guess anyway.

^^^^ CB: Where is he in all this ? If he's anti-Marxist-Leninist, he's not where he thinks he is on class struggle analysis in "economics" . He's not post-capitalist, Marxist-Leninist. He's sounding like a nowhere man when it comes to class analysis.

^^^^^

i agree with you that, to be a leftist, means you want to end capitalism but there are a lot of people on this list who are not so interested. and get all offended that i don't think they're part of the left. e.g, a lot of dailykossaks want to call themselves left but i don't think they are precisely bc they have zero interest in getting rid of capitalism. instead, they are largely of the mind that there's no other way to organize the economy so the best we can do is seriously rein capitalism in via the welfare state. wevs.

shag
> shag carpet bomb
>
> at the end he says he's excluding krugman:
>
> [1] I should be clear from the start, the ‘left’ referred to here
> excludes the broadly Keynesian supporters ranging from Paul Krugman to
> Christina Romer to Matthew Yglesias. Instead, the term ‘left’ here
> indexes a mostly non-Keynesian group of thinkers – typically with
> Marxist tendencies, but more generally interested in post-capitalism.
>
> ^^^^^^^
> CB: Why is it important that the Left be deeply involved in
> "economic" analysis and whence the founding of this importance ?
> Whence ? Karl Marx and Marxism , of course, which means that the Left
> is interested in "economics" because it has as its purpose achieving
> "post-capitalism" ( sometimes termed socialism and communism). How
> does "post-capitalist" interest give up on "economics" ?
> "Post-capitalist" interest in economics it the correct interest in
> economics. There is no left interest in economics that is not
> "post-capitalist" in purpose. The Left's rationale for focusing on
> "economics" is that the class struggle is in part the ":economic
> sphere" , workers vs capitalists.
>
> To the extent Keynesians do not do economic analysis with the purpose
> of ending capitalism , but preserving it, they are not Leftists in the
> essential sense.
>
> --
>
>
>> c b writes:
>>
>>> This author must not be reading Communist Party literature,
>>> lbo-talk, PEN-L and Marxism-Thaxis.
>>
>> Or even Krugman.
>> ___________________________________



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