[lbo-talk] query: from anarchist to marxist???

Alan Rudy alan.rudy at gmail.com
Mon Oct 17 15:14:57 PDT 2011


Woj, Since you've poo-pooed every movement, effort, trajectory, tendency or proposal put forward here on the list, I wonder is there anything you have in mind that you wouldn't label a pipe dream? A

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Max Sawicky <sawicky at verizon.net> wrote:


> Anarchism is pretty diverse. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be anarchist.
>
> Of Lange, what specifically?
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Both seem to be pipe dreams. Try Oskar Lange for a change.
> >
> > Wojtek
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Max Sawicky <sawicky at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > > I read State and Revolution, 40 years ago or so. A few shorter things I
> > > don't remember at all. I take Leninism to be the idea of a centralized
> > > vanguard party that foments a socialist revolution in the U.S. by force
> > of
> > > arms. In other words, a pipe dream. I do think industrial action --
> > mass
> > > strikes -- can force significant changes. Seems to me anarchist ideas
> in
> > > all their diversity are more interesting as radical possibilities.
> None
> > of
> > > this dismisses the relevance of Marx, IMO. Anarchists can be marxists.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Julio Huato <juliohuato at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Max wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Leninism is a dry hole, AFAIAC
> > >>
> > >> Leninism perhaps, but Lenin is a completely different thing. The bulk
> > >> of his work is online now at marxists.org. One interesting way to
> > >> read the guy is from his (main) latest to his (main) earliest works.
> > >> Of course, no time to read his complete works -- which a small group
> > >> of us at the U of Havana did, and discussed at length, in the 1980s,
> > >> as the tomes were being published in Spanish by Progress Publishers,
> > >> and how glad I am I did such a thing! -- but there are a lot of small
> > >> documents worth reading and studying carefully.
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