On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 21:25:55 +0100 (BST) Angelus Novus
<fuerdenkommunismus at yahoo.com> writes:
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> And remember, Lenin actually supported Kautsky *against* Rosa
> Luxemburg during the mass strike debate. I think Lenin and Kautsky
> were wrong in that case. However, I like to think Lenin tacitly
> admitted Rosa was correct by calling for all power to the soviets.
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> Nonetheless, I agree with Louis Proyect that any party-like project
> in the present era means constructing "Kautskyite" parties: large,
> multi-tendency socialist parties with reformist and revolutionary
> wings. That is basically what we are trying to create with Die
> Linke. Oskar Lafontaine even openly claims the legacy of the USPD.
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For that matter, Lenin, for most of his career, thought he was building a "Kautskyite" party too. He always considered the German SPD a role model for what a proper socialist party should look like. That was supposed to be the model for a "party of a new type" as opposed to the conspiratorial parties that revolutionaries had previously built in Russia. It was the rather peculiar circumstance of Russia that made it impossible for the Bolsheviks to actually become a Kautskyite party.
Anyway, Angelus got to be a brave man for having a good way to say for Louis Proyect. I once did that on this list several years ago, and I got all kinds of nasty emails from list members.
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