[lbo-talk] Kautsky (was Re: query: from anarchist to marxist???)

c b cb31450 at gmail.com
Tue Oct 18 13:58:30 PDT 2011


Angelus Novus c b wrote:


> He considered Kautsky a most excellent Marxist until Kautsky supported
Germany in WWI

Wait a minute, this is not true! Whatever else one thinks of Kautsky, he did not join with the SPD parliamentary leadership in supporting the war!

^^^^^^^ CB; Thanks Angelus. I have a distinct memory of Lenin criticizing Kautsky in the way I said, in _The State and Rev_ and _Imperialism_, but I'll check.

^^^^^

He suggested the SPD delegation abstain from voting rather than vote for war credits. About a year into the war, he joined with Bernstein -- that great revisionist bogeyman -- in **denouncing** the pro-war SPD leadership!

Lenin's later break with Kautsky had to do with his attitude toward the Russian Revolution, not anything to do with WWI!

And remember, Lenin actually supported Kautsky *against* Rosa Luxemburg during the mass strike debate. I think Lenin and Kautsky were wrong in that case. However, I like to think Lenin tacitly admitted Rosa was correct by calling for all power to the soviets.

Nonetheless, I agree with Louis Proyect that any party-like project in the present era means constructing "Kautskyite" parties: large, multi-tendency socialist parties with reformist and revolutionary wings. That is basically what we are trying to create with Die Linke.

Oskar Lafontaine even openly claims the legacy of the USPD



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