[lbo-talk] OWS Demands working group: jobs for all!

[Nathan S.]

On 10/20/2011 02:46 PM, Eric Beck wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:33 AM, Doug Henwood<dhenwood at panix.com>  wrote:
>> [As I just said, the anarchist-libertarian faction is trying to block the adoption of this by the OWS general assembly.]
> Okay, let me ask explicitly: what's wrong with being against full
> employment as a demand? Jobs (little "j") fucking suck and cause as
> much misery, stress, and death as lack of jobs. Why demand that? Talk
> about desiring your own repression.
>
> And yes, there are other proposals out there that are both better and
> just as realistic,* universal social wage, for instance. I mean, if
> we're making demands, let's really make some fucking demands.
>
> *Yes, in this climate, full employment is an outrageous demand. And
> even if it weren't, why craft your demands to what you think might be
> possible. So again, what's the objection to the objection? Principle?
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See, this is why having intellectual discussion is good, because the 
present climate has made me so auto-repressive (how does Mark Driscoll 
feel about that?) that I had gotten so excited that anyone asked for 
Jobs for All in the Obama era that I forgot about basic income 
guarantees... something even Nixon talked about occasionally.

A couple dozen posts ago shag says that sales people need all that 
motivational stuff because most of their day is so depressing and they 
run around thinking negative thoughts most of the time until they 
actually close something. I'd like to put an addendum on that to 
indicate that sales people still have to plan and revise their plan of 
action, which means being able to accept criticism.

-- 
Nathan