what did you make of the guardian article that attributed the problems to a fundamental schism over voting (which is how the demands working group is operating) and consensus?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/19/occupy-wall-street-protesters-divided?newsfeed=true
> On 10/21/2011 1:14 PM, shag carpet bomb wrote:
>
>> Doug asked:
>>> Did "Ketchup" have anything to do with this?
>>>
>> from this article, it seems unlikely. Ketchup is opposed to *any*
>> demands.
>
>
>> "That whole big desire for demands is something people want to use
>> to
>> co-opt us," said a longtime camper with red glasses and red hair who
>> goes by the name Ketchup....She supports the competing Liberty
>> Square
>> Blueprint, a kitchen-sink manifesto that eschews demands for loosely
>> defined goals.
>
> SA
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