[lbo-talk] [Pen-l] Is democracy the enemy? A reply to Zizek

Julio Huato juliohuato at gmail.com
Mon Oct 31 17:03:06 PDT 2011


It would be silly to say that OWS is akin to an insurrection of the type that overthrew the czar in the spring of 1917. Ideology, politics, and economic life have a very heavy inertia. But the discontent with the status quo has been brewing for quite a while here. Among the middle strata of the population, this discontent goes back to the imposition of Bush I, the reaction to the crash of 2001, and especially to the terrorist attack on 9/11. Impoverished segments of the working population have hardly had a break, although I believe the boom of the late 1990s qualifies as such. In any case, what we can safely say at this point is that OWS has a highly subversive potential, particularly in terms of its ability to wake up to political life sectors of the working population of the country that have previously had no or little political involvement. That is a tectonic shift in the politics of this society. I know that leftists love to feel like they are oh so special, and when all of a sudden others become leftists, the reaction is disbelief and disconcert. But, yes, man -- there are a lot of new people irrupting into politics in this new wave of protests. As Carrol has been saying -- deal with that new reality.

What I'm saying to Louis is that the role of the left at this point is to encourage this motion forward, rather than try and set limits to what it can accomplish. Because, who knows at this point what this limits are? Not Louis. In fact, often times, Louis exhibits the mental subtlety of anti-athlete foot powder. (I know, because I've been reading his posts on these lists for over ten years now.) So, he contents himself with a witticism. It sounds to me like a nervous scoff -- his way of dismissing my remarks as non-serious, because he doesn't have much in the way of substance to refute them. It's his game. But I'm not appealing to him only.

Now, don't get me wrong: this doesn't mean that the laws of political gravity can be violated. On Doug Henwood's list, I've been writing on the importance of political organization, etc. Here's one item:

http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/pipermail/lbo-talk/Week-of-Mon-20111024/013596.html

So, yes, we have to be mindful of the formidable difficulties ahead. But OWS has not been defeated. If you want to add "yet," go ahead. But it hasn't. So, why proceed as if it had been? Again, IMO, the psychological basis for this treatment (see how people on LBO-Talk reacted to OWS, especially at first) is, IMO, the need for leftists to establish their uniqueness. It's an understandable (but incorrect) reaction. They were against Obama before the people who supported Obama grew disappointed of him and decided to take matters on their own hands (e.g. unionized workers). So, how can those people, who were "wrong" yesterday can be right today?

Well, it is exactly the other way around. Gramsci's brutal analogy against Trotsky holds: It was people like Louis who -- years ago, when the young girl was not of age yet to bear child -- wanted (metaphorically speaking) to get her pregnant. Gramsci didn't follow up on the analogy, but now those people, contemplating a full-fledged and healthy woman, are claiming that she is sterile. So, it is not us, it's them. Louis is criticizing Zizek because the guy is emphasizing the fact that, at this point, the protesters hold the political initiative and should keep it. They have the moral high ground and should hold it. The other side is somewhat disconcerted.

That may or may not last. Indeed, we should be clear to note that the other side still has a very tight hold on the reigns of effective power (wealth ownership and political power), so I'm not saying we should condemn reforms or political gradualism in the abstract. We need to prepare for what's to come, whichever way the ruling class decides to throw its pitches. The political establishment is playing its game as if OWS didn't exist. They wish it didn't exist. But they must be somewhat concerned, because it's the first time in recent years that a mass political phenomenon challenges their ability to manage the political debate. (The very short-lived Bush vs. Gore impasse was the only other juncture in recent history that was so pregnant of political possibilities. We know it didn't last long.)

Will they regain the political initiative and control? Perhaps. Will they defeat OWS by mere attrition? Will OWS protesters grow tired and bored? Will they repress OWS instead? I don't deny that such scenarios are likely, but I will not give any 1%er the pleasure of presuming that those outcomes should be taken for granted. That's the beautiful thing about the moments in history when masses of people decide to make their own history.

I'm cc-ing the other lists.

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 7:03 PM, nathan tankus <somekindofheterodox at gmail.com> wrote:
> Julio, as much as i am incredibly happy about OWS (and i think this
> connects to a conversation we had a year or so ago about why people
> weren't in the streets then) i think you (and if what you say is true,
> lenin too) are underestimating the use of the state's own rules at all
> times. in 2003 i and thousands of others were in the streets
> protesting the iraq war, does that mean it wasn't the time to find
> some state law to attempt to force the invasion to end? the goals, not
> the non-violent means are most important.
>
> --
> -Nathan Tankus
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