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Tayssir John Gabbour tjg at pentaside.org
Wed Sep 21 15:34:42 PDT 2011


There's an influential fringe of libertarians who wish to abolish the state: anarcho-capitalists. For example, Murray Rothbard wrote of capitalist utopias where courts and police are private for-profit firms.

More are likely minarchists, who want a minimal state which rigorously enforces capitalism. (At least the Mises crowd. A lot of people seem to call themselves "libertarian" for the vaguest reasons, and I have no idea what they believe.) http://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Libertarianism

(BTW, "libertarian" was coined by an anarcho-communist to evade a French ban on anarchist lit. A century later, US right-wingers captured the term for themselves. Outside the US and England, I believe libertarian is still used in its historically correct sense, what we'd call "libertarian socialism".) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism#Etymology_and_terminology

Chomsky used to be published in the Cato Institute's magazine "Inquiry", because he couldn't get published elsewhere. (The Cato Institute is a libertarian think-tank.) http://www.chomsky.info/onchomsky/2000----.htm

All the best,

Tj

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Jordan Hayes <jmhayes at j-o-r-d-a-n.com> wrote:
> C. G. Estabrook writes:
>
>> [...] it seems to me that Chomsky has it right ...
>
> Quoting Chomsky:
>
>>> Chomsky: "Dismantling of big government" sounds like a nice
>>> phrase.  What does it mean? Does it mean that corporations go
>>> out of existence, because there will no longer be any guarantee
>>> of limited liability?
>>> [...]
>>> Does it mean that we should be ruled by private tyrannies
>>> with no accountability to the general public, while all
>>> democratic forms are tossed out the window?
>
> I guess Chomsky doesn't actually understand Libertarianism in general and
> Ron Paul in particular.  Like I said, Paul is a lunatic, but no Libertarian
> wants to dismantle the state completely.  Libertarians have the state play a
> central role (specifically in the realm of enforcement of property rights
> and contracts), but claim that it has overstepped it's boundaries in the US.
>  They wish to roll-back those specific items, not remove it completely.
>
> I think what Chomsky is doing here is called "hyperbole" ...
>
> There's lots of ways to criticise the empty hole that's Libertarianism
> without making stuff up.
>
> # "Does Mr. Paul want us to kill all the puppies!?"
>
> /jordan
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