On Aug 5, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote:
> Here's the best account I know of the question that Holt (and a good
> number of other modern philosophers) raises. It's from the late
> Oxford philosopher/theologian Herbert McCabe (Terry Eagleton's
> teacher).
>
> http://newsfromneptune.com/2010/08/14/god-and-creation/
>
> "In my view to assert that God exists is to claim the right and need
> to
> carry on an activity, to be engaged in research...
> Gibberish. Nobody denies his right to carry on any intellectual
> activity he wishes or to research on any topic he wants. What does
> that have to do with the undefined and undefinable word "God" and
> the (in his sentence) undefined word "exists?"
Shane Mage
This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
kindling in measures and going out in measures."
Herakleitos of Ephesos