> Andy wrote:
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> But there is a geographic correlation between the relatively unregulated
>> presence of devices well-designed to kill people and people getting killed
>> with said devices.
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> The murder rate in the U.S. has been high since the get go. Guns do not
> explain that.
I don't understand. I'm not saying that gun availability is the only factor. Are you saying it's not a factor at all?