[lbo-talk] Collective idiocy....

[Wojtek S]

There are two separate issues - relationship between supply of guns
and the number of gun-related deaths, and the relationship  between
supply of guns and the number of violent crimes.  I consistently
affirmed the former (as per your quotation) and denied the latter (per
quotation below - I meant to say result not reduce).  I do not
understand why you have such a problem keeping those two ideas
separate.

"By this logic, limiting the access to weapons (which is not the same
as limiting ownership), will reduce the probability of weapon related
deaths and injuries.  It will not prevent them, it will not solve
social problems that cause criminal behavior, but it it will reduce in
fewer deaths."

Wojtek

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Jordan Hayes <jmhayes at j-o-r-d-a-n.com> wrote:
> Wojtek:
>
>
>>> it's just not supportable that a significant contributing
>>> factor is availablility of guns."
>>
>>
>> [WS:]  Agreed.  I think I stated that earlier.
>
>
> No, what you said earlier was:
>
>> By sheer law of probability, if you greatly increase
>> the number of firearms, the number of gun-related deaths
>> or injuries is bound to increase, even in the absence of
>> any other sociological factors.
>
>
> I'm sick of quoting you to you.
>
> Wojtek: By sheer law of probability, the sky is green.
> Jordan: No, it's blue, not green.
> Wojtek: I never said it was!
> [...]
> Jordan: I think it's clear that the sky is blue.
> Wojtek: I agree, and I think I stated that earlier
>
> *shrug*
>
> /jordan
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Wojtek

"An anarchist is a neoliberal without money."