[lbo-talk] A view from the left on gun control

andie_nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 27 18:50:37 PST 2012


Quite possible that it is a good study. As I said, the data are all over the map and the conclusion I've been citing is not robust. It's just the majority, maybe the plurality view,

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On Dec 27, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Marv Gandall <marvgand at gmail.com> wrote:


> This is your area, Andie, but doesn't this suggest otherwise or is it outdated research?
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> http://cjr.sagepub.com/content/18/2/182.abstract
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> On 2012-12-27, at 2:21 PM, andie_nachgeborenen wrote:
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>> Without being flip, the weight of the evidence, although it is conflicting, is that whilepoverty and inequality are correlated strongly with property crime, they are not corrected strongly with violent crime. The poor steal at higher rates than the better off, but don't appear to rob and kill at higher rates. This is not a highly robust conclusion, but it is the majority criminological view. There are other good reasons to oppose poverty, inequality, and alienation.
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>> On Dec 27, 2012, at 8:22 AM, "Jordan Hayes" <jmhayes at j-o-r-d-a-n.com> wrote:
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>>> Marv, sleep deprived, yells:
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>>>> IT IS NOT ONLY OR EVEN PRIMARILY GUNS, BUT CAPITALIST
>>>> INEQUALITY, POVERTY, AND ALIENATION WHICH ARE ULTIMATELY
>>>> RESPONSIBLE FOR CRIME AND VIOLENCE; THE UBIQUITY OF GUNS
>>>> COMPOUNDS THE PROBLEM.
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>>> Whatever, dude.
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