On Feb 8, 2012, at 12:28 AM, "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
> Eubulides
>
> <bhaskar.sunkara at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Really? When the black bloc murdered a few bank workers in Greece in May
>> 2010, the question from me was "Why doesn't the Greek CP have a militia to
>> enforce discipline at protests?"
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> There's no such beast as a death-free dismantling of capitalism. I'll
> leave aside for now whether capitalism is even dismantleable at all.
>
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> I agree, but perhaps the obvious needs to be added: Ian's point applies even
> to non-violent movements. Things happen. Also: The Greek CP is not
> communist, it's not anti-capitalist; it does not have a fucking thing to say
> about any anti-capitalist movement, unless you mean that as part of the
> capitalist regime it ought to put the cops more on the alert. There's a
> certain word magic involved in this assumption that merely calling something
> Communist or Socialist makes it automatically part of the left.
>
> There are always outliers; regardless of the nature of the 'core' of a
> movement, there will be elements that differ, often sharply. Bhaskar is
> indulging in pure fantasy if he imagines a CP (no matter its politics) can
> exert that kind of discipline over the whole populace.
>
> Carrol
>
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