[lbo-talk] "Global Warming Has Stopped"

Alan Rudy alan.rudy at gmail.com
Wed Feb 8 11:16:59 PST 2012


On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Somebody Somebody <philos_case at yahoo.com>wrote:


>
> Whether or not the right plays games with the issue - there's still the
> matter of whether global warming should be a central issue for the left.
> There's still a question over whether socialists should shove their
> traditional core issues aside and become an appendage of bourgeois
> environmentalism. Is it left-wing to join in with the right and tell the
> working class: guess what, remember how we talked about liberating the
> productive forces and advancing from where capitalism left off? Forget all
> that - now austerity and anti-consumerism is the order of the day, because
> mother earth takes priority over human interests.
>
>
Yes, it is true-with-a-capital-T, all environmentalism is bourgeois, all of it, every iota... furthermore, and relatedly, it must also be the case that all environmentalists are romantic technoprimitivists who insist that the only viable way forward is to reduce not only consumption but the vast majority of peoples' standard and quality of living, no doubt every single person with environmental priorities thinks that, it is irrefutable...

Environmentalists are a completely undifferentiated group and need to be universally slapped around as a result, in fact - if you think about it - slapping one is as good as slapping all of them because they are so similar. I say, since like those leftists so critical of capitalism, we tell them to leave and go celebrate nature by crawling under snow-covered rocks... yeah, that'll show 'em.

As you so clearly argue, with tons of citations and clear knowledge of the breadth and scope of environmental politics, environmentalism is completely about the quantity of naturally limited stuff in the world that mandates everyone lead a worse life for everyone to be able to have a life. Not a single environmentalist is aware of the staggering maldistribution of overproduced goods,services and wealth, nor do any of them have any sense whatsoever of how much higher our potential quality of life could be under any number of the varieties of ecosocialism imaganable. I am going to follow you from now on because you so clearly have a great understanding of the structure of feeling associated with the many strands of environmentalism and have no interest whatsoever in ignoring the character of environmental justice and third world political ecology movements - among so many others - so that you can repeat arguments from the 1970s in the 2010s. I mean, really, who'd do anything like that?



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