[lbo-talk] On the Flight of the Bumble Bee , was Lou Proyect responds...

Wojtek S wsoko52 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 10 04:30:31 PST 2012


The bumblebee may be a joke, but science, or rather pseudo-science is full of arguments that something contradicts the theory and thus either cannot exist or will soon cease to exist. We do not need to search far. My favorite anectode, perhaps an urban legend, is some Russian scientists proving the impossibility of space flight. The argument was supposed to go like this: for any fuel, it takes more energy to take the mass of that fuel to space than the energy that can be obtained from that fuel.

Such anecdotes, even if apocryphal, illustrate a rather wide spread and troubling tendency in academic thinking that can be summarized as "if the facts contradict the theory, it is the facts that must give." I guess this kind of thinking goes back to Plato. If this kind of argument "proves" the impossibility of a flight of an insect or a spaceship or "predicts" a revolution that fails to materialize, it is mostly comical, but if it is used to,say, determine the "moral worth" of a human being and on that basis deny people access to education and decent life - it is criminal. Unfortunately, this is the modus operandi of the testing-credentialing complex aka higher edumacation in Amerika.

Wojtek

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM, // ravi <ravi at platosbeard.org> wrote:
> On Feb 9, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Carrol Cox wrote:
>> Comic Interlude
>>>
>>> "Or that wonderful little joke that I have posted before: "Scientists have
>>> proven beyond doubt that the bumblebee does not have the necessary wingspan
>>> to fly. The bumblebee does not know this and keeps flying anyway.".
>>> -ravi
>>>
>>
>> I first encountered d this anecdote in the early 1940s in the pages of the
>> Reader's Digest, and it has been endlessly repeated since then.
>> Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, its premise (that aerodynamics
>> failed to explain the flight of the bumblebee) has also, I think, been
>> debunked. No doubt science often does err in this way; the flight of the
>> bumblebee just happens NOT to be an actual illustration of such error.
>>
>
> Oh I have always taken it to be a joke, not a factual claim (that bumblebees cannot, per science, fly). I didn’t know that at some time this was presented as a fact, unsurprisingly in the Readers Digest!
>
>        —ravi
>
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