[lbo-talk] More on BB antics and their defenders

[Tahir Wood]

Gosh, what a torrent of verbiage on this thread, and I'm trying to work out what it's all about. It seems as if it is about the occupy movement, then again it seems to be about direct action vs. 'theory'. Now I think the direct action protagonists are precisely articulating a theory (without the scare quotes), a theory about how you change the relations of power in society. 

For what it's worth, I don't think that anyone has really got a theory of how capitalism morphs into its opposite, nor did Marx have either. I think all of us here (I said 'I think') supports the general thrust of the OWS movement, as a movement of protest. But I think there are only a few here who think it provides some sort of model of how capitalism will be overthrown. This is cloud cuckoo thinking, if only because of the fact that a great many of the people involved and their supporters are not anti-capitalists. Take Lou Reed as a case in point.  Most of them just seem to dislike bankers and/or republicans.

I'm obviously not close to the action, but just trying to make sense of what this debate is actually about.

Tahir

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