On 2012-02-15, at 7:21 AM, shag carpet bomb wrote:
> At 04:24 PM 2/14/2012, Marv Gandall wrote:
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>> On 2012-02-14, at 3:32 PM, shag carpet bomb wrote:
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>> > as such, the concern is how to extricate the good people and keep them
>> > from getting caught up in OWS silliness. I think Marv said it about
>> > Lou Proyect. Lou's arguments are fabulous for keeping people like me
>> > from supporting or engaging in Black Blocs, etc.
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>> Huh? I said what?
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> At 10:01 PM 2/7/2012, Marv Gandall wrote:
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>> I doubt very much Louis and like critics of these tactics are aiming their comments at the Black Blockers. They're aimed at the larger number of activists who also deplore Black Bloc vandalism but whose liberal values and, in many cases, anarchist sympathies encourage toleration of Bloc behaviour under the rubric "diversity of tactics". This was not the case in the 30's and even the 60's, when the organizers and marshals of mass demonstrations, not a few of them Marxists and trade unionists, full well understood how these provocative tactics alienated the public and gave the cops a pretext for repressing and intimidating the mass of demonstrators. They sought to strongarm them out of the ranks whenever necessary. Proyect, I'm sure, would rather see the majority adopt this approach than yield to the Black Blockers. The soft muddleheaded professors are on the other side of the debate.