And this differs from a third party how? I can think of two pretty well know cases of this happening. One was the McGovern nomination. "Democrats for Nixon" as an organization was pretty small. But I personally witnessed the established Democratic party set out to sabotage the McGovern campaign. Taught me at the age of 12 never to trust to Democrats. An older case was the Upton Sinclair Epic campaign. He won the Democratic nomination, and the Democrats and Republicans teamed up to defeat him. If you can't deal with that, you should not run. But again I'm trying to see how the situation is worse in the Upton Sinclair or McGovern cases than a third party run. And one of the points about Sinclair, is that though he lost in both cases, the run as Democratic candidate got many times the vote he got running on the socialist ticket. Enough votes to scare the shit out of the establishment. Enough votes that a of analysts think that the EPIC campaign is the reason we have Social Security today. Again, in a lot of cases I think we are better off with direct action and grass roots organizing. But if you think the time is right for running candidates,
I'm trying to figure out what the disadvantage of the EPIC approach vs. running local candidates on the Green ticket, with all the extra obstacles that entails. What can they do to you as a Democratic nominee they can't do to you as a Green?
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