[lbo-talk] the Grundrisse and credit.

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Sat Jan 14 13:02:44 PST 2012


I'll be a week or so before I can begin to wrap my mind around this. But a general comment seems relevant.

When we say socialism we merely mean human freedom to construct production relations. Period. We have no crystal ball and any blueprints we draw are merely fun & games. Also -- memory fuzzy here. The importance of that passage is the difference between all capitalisms and all other monetary or commercial societies of the past. And none of this is _politically_ of direct relevance. Always the CORE political question of mass movements (i.e. any anti-capitalist movement) is How do we Grow! Not what would be best to do but what will enlarge our ranks.

Carrol

-----Original Message----- From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] On Behalf Of Doug Henwood Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 2:41 PM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the Grundrisse and credit.

On Jan 14, 2012, at 2:24 PM, 123hop at comcast.net wrote:


> I don't understand why it's missing. Doesn't Graeber clearly distinguish
between the use of credit pre and post capitalism?

No, I don't think so. Must look back but I don't recall much sense of how credit, which is age old, fits differently into not merely capitalist production but also relationships of ownership. ___________________________________ http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk



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