[lbo-talk] the Grundrisse and credit

[Carrol Cox]

Sometimes I am still interested in books, that is, in a given book AS a
book. But on the whole I no longer give a damn about a given book, in
'arguing' or even thinking to myself over whether it is good, well written,
shitty, whatever. I am interested in the world. I see books and articles &
posts etc simply as pointers, as systems of memos, raising a question about
the world that intrigues me. That's why when Joanna pointed to Graeber's
book as well written, nuanced, etc I was completely flummoxed. Really. Who
cares. It would or could be just as important a book if it were really badly
written, extremely dogmatic & crude, ignoring all fine distinctions.

Now if I could still read, the book I would be concerned to read & taste
_as_ a book is Pope's Essay on Critiicism. It has been growing on me in my
memory. My thoughts on it do, combined with a number of other things, bear
on our world, & concern how in the 1880s a discipline was born. But I grow
weary. It's going to have to be put off discussing it further for now.

Carrol

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Subject: [lbo-talk] the Grundrisse and credit

shag carpet bomb said...
":) you've been around for awhile, so i dont' meant to patronize.
Still, maybe a little refresher.

first rule of LBO-talk:

always argue in the absence of any direct reference to the text under
discussion. the absolute last thing you do is actually drag out a
quote to support your contention.

second rule:

a. tell the person who asks for evidence that noone has enough time to
read everything and/or mock them by calling them 'smarty pants' and
stuph.

b. find convenient quotage from the author on line so as to avoid the
issue as to whether they actually read the book.

third rule:

if you bother to bring in quotes to support your thesis, be prepared
for responses which are usually built on Teh Snippage and Swipage (TM)
which involves snipping out phrases or portions of sentences that can
be used to misrepresent (take swipes at) the author or damn them by
poisoning the wells. If you complain of baiting/poisoning the wells,
you'll be ignored. if you provide substantive quotage to refute their
claim, wash rinse repeat. "

Right, I'm sorry, my bad. i have this terrible habit of wanting
assertions backed up with evidence. I'll try to reel back my
outrageous demands.

p.s. you're fight club esque rules of LBO talk greatly amused me.
thanks for that.

-- 
-Nathan Tankus
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