[lbo-talk] A Glimpse into the Fate of Ph.D's currently

Carl G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Mon Jun 11 20:03:43 PDT 2012


Perhaps you're thinking of Cary Nelson <http://www.cary-nelson.org/index.html

>, professor of English emeritus at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, president of the AAUP, and author of

• Manifesto of a Tenured Radical. New York: New York University Press, 1997. • Office Hours: Activism and Change in the Academy (with Stephen Watt). New York and London: Routledge, 2004. • No University Is an Island: Saving Academic Freedom. New York University Press, 2010.

On Jun 11, 2012, at 9:44 PM, shag carpet bomb wrote:


> there are a shitload of books documenting how your experience, once
> common, disappeared and no longer the story for grad students. my
> mentor/diss advisor came on board ABD, tenure track, finished his
> diss while teaching. i was taught, from the get go, that this would
> never be the fate of anyone in my cohort or after.
>
> I've forgotten his name, but someone wrote up this stuff back in
> early or mid 90s, someone at University of Ill, Urbana-Champagne
> maybe?
>
> the worst part is that, for a lot of profs I knew, they'd take
> positions like that and do it for five years. by the time tenure
> track opened up somewhere, they'd been on the market for five years.
> As a consequence, a lot of places wouldn't even look at their
> application on accounta the belief that, if no one wanted them in
> that five years, then they must suck so why bother. (same thing
> happens in regular job market, even when the lack of job is due to
> structural changes in the economy/recession. employers thinK: what's
> wrong with this guy he couldn't get a job in the last 5 years.
>
> At 09:55 PM 6/11/2012, Carrol Cox wrote:
>> Michael Yates writes: ". . . what a ruse, calling it a visiting
>> assistant
>> professor."
>>
>> That was what caught my attention. These job opening posts come
>> regularly on
>> the departmental e-list, but I hadn't seen this particular way to say
>> "adjunct" or (actually) "Temp" before. In '61 when I came to ISU I
>> was
>> merely an ABD, but I came as an assistant professor on tenure
>> track. The
>> person who takes this job will only get year by year contracts, no
>> benefits,
>> and so on. Though my load for several years was mostly comp, that
>> was before
>> composition got "professionalized" -- in practice that means that
>> comp
>> teachers have close supervision, with all that implies...
>>



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