[lbo-talk] Noam goes with Barry ?

Wojtek S wsoko52 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 14 07:22:45 PDT 2012


Marv: " The CPUSA didn't orient to the DP in the 30's because it thought it could transform it into a Bolshevik party. It entered it mainly for strategic reasons: to be close to the mass of trade unionists and other "

[WS:] This begs the question whether party "identities" are written in stone or are subject to political pressures from below. My hunch is that is a mixed bag, or to be more precise, about 1/4 of the former and 3/4 of the latter. That is to say, while parties have some parts of their identities that are relatively fixed over time, they are also in the business of winning elections, which makes them responsive to pressures from the public (however defined.)

The fact of the matter remains that left policies - by which I mean European style social-democrats and parties left of them - enjoy support of a rather tiny minority of the US electorate - around 5-6 percent judging from historical records (e.g. Debbs - who arguably represents the highest mark of left politics in the US received only 6% of the votes.) Contrary to opinions expressed by many leftists, the majorities of the US electorate do not vote for a "lesser evil" but for candidates who more-or-less reflect their own political views, as Hofstadter ("The American Political Tradition") aptly observed.


>From that POV, the main question is not how to establish a left party
in the US, but how to make left politics more acceptable to the US voters. If the views of the US voters drift to the left, I am pretty sure the question of a left party - whether a new brand name or a 'reformed' Democrat party - will be answered in some way.

Wojtek



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