[lbo-talk] Death penalty (was: Singapore)

Marv Gandall marvgand at gmail.com
Fri Oct 5 06:16:21 PDT 2012


On 2012-10-05, at 7:47 AM, Wojtek S wrote:


> Marv: "differently than it is intended to be defined"
>
> [WS:] When I hear passive voice, I extend my middle finger.

Let's keep middle fingers out of it. No offence was meant.


> Unlike you, I believe that there are people on the anti-abortion side
> who are genuinely concerned about this form of taking a life. True,
> there are also shysters and demagogues who exploit these feelings for
> a political gain, but that is also true of death penalty opponents,
> supporters of euthanasia, environmentalist, or vegetarians. But
> disregarding these genuine concerns on the grounds that there might be
> some fraudsters among them strikes me as a really bad case of thought
> policing, stalinism, and toeing the party line.

Whoa, whoa. I also understand there are many women who are opposed to abortion and I can respect that. It's their body, and their right to choose to have a child or not. But I have less tolerance for those, especially men, who equate abortion with homicide and the death penalty - which you have come perilously close to doing - and on that basis would deny women the right to choose and imprison "baby killers" instead. I know you wouldn't criminalize the practice, but that is your contradiction, not mine. Like many others, I see no conflict whatsoever in supporting the pro-choice and dying with dignity movements and opposing capital punishment, a barbarous relic.



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