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> No, I'm not familiar with that. My paper isn't mainly concerned with the
death
> penalty or any institutionalized form of punishment. It is a long way from
revenge
> as a form of justice to institutionalizing any policies of punishment in a
legal
> system. I am mainly concerned with showing that revenge is a form if
justice and
> how it works. Whether, to what extent, and how it might have a place in
social
> policy, for example in legal punishment, are questions for another day.
>
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> On Oct 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Shane Mage <shmage at pipeline.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Oct 5, 2012, at 12:18 PM, andie_nachgeborenen wrote:
> >
> >> I have a draft paper on revenge as a form of justice, not yet ready to
be seen,
> in which I discuss the usual theories and propose my own. Revenge, I
believe, as
> do most people, underlies the concept of retribution. I argue that revenge
is a
> form of justice that has a logic of its own and is not mere
bloodthirstiness. I don't
> try to link revenge into retribution and officially sanctioned punishment.
My object
> is to just show that it is more than than lower brain blood lust and
eligible in
> principle for consideration for a place In an account of punishment. I do
not think
> that anyone except the handful of extreme utilitarians really reject
> revenge,although I do think revenge is poorly understood. In all modesty I
think I
> may be the only person who understands it,as I have a novel account that
is as
> far as I know quite original. I don't think lack of a generally accepted
theoretical
> account disqualifies revenge or any deeply held consideration from
potential
> inclusion in pol!
> icy. I and many people who think about this are not pure revenge
theorists; as
> federal and other sentencing laws provide, just deserts and
proportionality, two
> revenge-based considerations, are generally balanced with other factors in
arriving
> at what seems like a socially acceptable and more or less fair punishment
for
> wrongdoing. So I think that it is is very rare that considerations if
revenge are
> imposed with no regard to consequences and other factors.
> >
> > I hope your paper discusses the Marquis de Sade's justification for his
> opposition to the death penalty (which of course nearly got him executed
and did
> get him confined to an insane asylum)--that each family has the
responsibility to
> enact retribution for outrageous crimes, as in Pushtunwala (which, of
course, he
> had never heard of).
> >
> > Shane Mage
> >
> >
> > This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> > always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> > kindling in measures and going out in measures.
> >
> > Herakleitos of Ephesos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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